Glenn Perkins and Matt Thomas are both a similar age to 74-year-old President Trump. Like him, both have been hospitalised with Covid-19.
But the two men have very different recovery experiences to the president’s.
And while both are Republicans, Glenn and Matt have differing views on Trump.
The septuagenarians share how they recovered after weeks in hospital, and their thoughts on the president’s illness and the state of the US pandemic response.
Video by Alexandra Ostasiewicz and Joaquim Moreira Salles